To-The-Trade-S2E43 Profit First, Ego Second: Real Talk with Julie Sellers on Interior Design Growth

Profit First, Ego Second: Real Talk with Julie Sellers on Interior Design Growth

Show Summary:

In this empowering episode of the To-The-Trade podcast, host Laurie Laizure sits down with business strategist Julie Sellers, founder of @ellevatedoutcomes, to talk scaling, strategy, and sustainability for interior designers.

Julie’s company functions as a high-level advisory firm for creative entrepreneurs, providing CFO- and CEO-level insights to solopreneurs and small teams. From helping designers move beyond the “everything runs through me” phase to building companies capable of supporting long-term financial goals and retirement, Julie brings a business-minded perspective to an industry often driven by emotion.

They address key challenges: how to delegate without losing your design identity, why many designers experience financial difficulties long before seeking help, and what true profitability looks like. Julie shares her “delegation vs. transference” framework, emphasizes understanding “real revenue” versus total revenue, and explains how ego (yes, it has a role!) affects creative entrepreneurship.

Laurie incorporates community-sourced data, including IDC polls showing most designers aren’t on track for retirement and over half earn under $100K annually. They explain what it takes to build a business, not just a portfolio, and why understanding your profit and loss is essential for growth.

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Whether you’re leading a team, planning for succession, or just aiming to pay yourself a consistent salary, this episode is full of practical insights and mindset shifts. Tune in for an honest, funny, and financially focused look at the business of interior design.

Time Stamp-

00:01 – Intro to Julie Sellers & Elevated Outcomes

01:24 – The designer bottleneck problem: “The problem is you”

03:52 – Two designer archetypes Julie works with

06:50 – Delegation vs. transference in design firms

10:13 – Are designers coming to Julie in crisis or preparation?

12:28 – Retirement & financial realities for designers

13:46 – Why profit ≠ salary and what real revenue means

18:54 – The problem with giving hours away for free

22:43 – Sizzle vs. steak: what really makes money in design

24:33 – Financial buckets, owner pay, and sustainable models

32:23 – Personal vs. business trade-offs in salary and scaling

37:27 – The myth of effortless success in design

41:41 – Bridging design confidence with CEO confidence

45:52 – Website tips: clarity, pricing ranges, and lead alignment

54:14 – Designers vs. retail: why financial transparency matters

56:45 – How to work with Elevated Outcomes

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